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ROC MEETING MINUTESBuilding Construction – Life Safety Technical Committeeon Means of EgressOctober 4-5, 2007 MeetingMarriott Providence Downtown – Providence, RI1. Call to Order.The meeting was called to order by Chair James Lathrop at 8:00 a.m. on Thursday,October 4, 2007 at the Marriott Providence Downtown, Providence, RI.2. Introduction of Committee Members and Guests.The following committee members and guests were in attendance.TECHNICAL COMMITTEE MEMBERSNAMEREPRESENTINGJames Lathrop, ChairRon Coté, Secretary (nonvoting)Ryan Alles, Alternate(to R. Leon)Jason Averill, PrincipalCharles Barlow, PrincipalLawrence Brown, Alternate(to S. Orlowski)John Bryan, PrincipalDavid de Vries, PrincipalJoseph DeRosier, PrincipalSteven Di Pilla, PrincipalEdward Donoghue, Alternate(to G. Nuschler)Joshua Elvove, Alternate(to D. Frable)Edward Fixen, PrincipalRobert Goodwin, PrincipalRita Guest, PrincipalKoffel Associates, Inc.NFPAHigh Rise Escape Systems, Inc.Rep. The Safe Evacuation CoalitionUS National Institute of Standards andTechnology Building & Fire Research LabEverglow NA, Inc.National Association of HomeBuildersHimselfFiretech Engineering, Inc.US Department of Veterans AffairsESIS Global Risk Control ServicesRep. American Society of Safety EngineersEdward A. Donoghue Associates, Inc.Rep. National Elevator Industry, Inc.US General Services AdministrationSchirmer Engineering Corp.Kentucky State Fire Marshals OfficeCarson Guest, Inc.Rep. American Society of Interior DesignersR. T. Leicht, AlternateState of DE Office of the State Fire Marshal(to K. Bush)Rep. International Fire Marshals AssociationRobert Leon, PrincipalLife-Pack Technology, Inc.Rep. The Safe Evacuation CoalitionBLD/SAF-MEA October 4-5, 2007 Meeting Minutes / Page 1Page 8 of 126

Christine McMahon, PrincipalGary Nuschler, PrincipalSteven Orlowski, PrincipalJake Pauls, PrincipalRichard Peacock, Alternate(to J. Averill)Robert Perry, PrincipalBrian Rhodes, Alternate(to E. Rosenbaum)Roy Schwarzenberg, PrincipalMichael Shulman, PrincipalMichael Sinsigalli, PrincipalThomas Stoll, Alternate(to D. Pappas)Michael Tierney, PrincipalGUESTSNAMEBrian BlackKristin ColletteBill DorflerKatie FlowerDaniel McGeeElliott MertzManny MunizRon NicksonLarry PerryJonathan (Yoni) ShimshoniRobert SolomonKelly TiltonEaster Seals NH/NY/VT/ME/RIOtis Elevator CompanyRep. National Elevator Industry Inc.National Association of Home BuildersJake Pauls Consulting Services in BuildingUse and Safety – Rep. American PublicHealth AssociationUS National Institute of Standards andTechnologyRobert Perry Associates Inc.Rep. Door & Hardware InstituteHughes Associates, Inc.US Central Intelligence AgencyUnderwriters Laboratories, Inc.West Hartford, CT Fire DepartmentThe Bodine Co., Inc.Rep. National Electrical ManufacturersAssociationBuilders Hardware ManufacturersAssociationREPRESENTINGNational Elevator Industry, Inc.NFPAThe RJA GroupDoor and Hardware InstituteJulius Blum & Co.Lapeyre Stair, Inc.Manny Muniz Associates, LLCNMHCBOMA Int’lSafe Evacuation CoalitionNFPACIATECHNICAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS ABSENTREPRESENTINGNAMEPhilip Favro, PrincipalLeslie Strull, Principal(Guest W. Dorfler attended)Phillip Tapper, PrincipalMichael Tomy, PrincipalJoe Versteeg, PrincipalPhilip C. Favro & AssociatesThe RJA Group, Inc.US Department of DefenseHeery International Inc.Rep. American Institute of ArchitectsVersteeg AssociatesBLD/SAF-MEA October 4-5, 2007 Meeting Minutes / Page 2Page 9 of 126

3. Approval of Minutes.The minutes of the October 31-November 1, 2006 meeting were approved as writtenand distributed.4. Task Group Reports.Task group reports were presented. The following task groups were asked to remainactive for the next revision cycle.Interstitial Spaces and Normally-Unoccupied AreasMike Crowley, ChairRJAmcrowley@rjagroup.comMatt ChibbaroOSHAchibbaro.mat@dol.govJoseph DeRosierVAjoseph.derosier@va.govDave de VriesFiretechfiretechengineering@comcast.netJosh ElvoveGSAjoshua.elvove@gsa.govEd FixenSchirmered fixen@schirmereng.comWayne HolmesHSBWayne Holmes@hsb.comDavid KleinVADavid.P.Klein@va.govNIST Recommendations, High-Rise Buildings, and ElevatorsWilliam Koffel, Chair Koffelwkoffel@koffel.comScott AdamsPark City, UT Firesadams@pcfd.orgMarshal, Rep. Intl FireMarshals AssnJason Averill /NISTjason.averill@nist.govRichard Peacockrichard.peacock@nist.govDavid CollinsPreview Grouppregrp@aol.com(architect)Ed Fixen /Schirmered fixen@schirmereng.comWarren Bonischwarren bonisch@schirmereng.comDave FrableGSAdave.Frable@gsa.govR.T. LeichtDE Fire Marshaldeputy44@aol.comGary NuschlerNational Elevatorgary.nuschler@otis.comIndustryJake PaulsAmerican Public Healthbldguse@aol.comBLD/SAF-MEA October 4-5, 2007 Meeting Minutes / Page 3Page 10 of 126

Supplemental Escape DevicesRichard Peacock,NISTChairJohn BryanSelfMike CrowleyRJADave de VriesFiretechRobert LeonLife-Pack Technologies,Rep The Safe EvacuationCoalitionChristine McMahonEaster SealsNH/NY/VT/MEMike ShulmanULStairway Evacuation (Descent) DevicesJake Pauls, ChairAmerican Public HealthNorm CooperGaraventa AccessibilityDavid EgenEVAC CHAIR Corp.Dave FrableU.S. General ServicesAdministrationGlenn HedmanUniversity of IllinoisAssistive TechnologyUnitEdwina JuilletFire & Life Safety forPeople with DisabilitiesMarsha MazzU.S. Access BoardPhotoluminescent Signage and MarkingJason Averill - ChairNISTCharles BarlowEverglowJohn BryanSelfKen BushMD SFM, rep IFMADave FrableUS General ServicesAdmin.Geoffrey PeckhamHazard Communications/ Jalite USARoy SchwarzenbergUS Central IntelligenceAgencyMike ShulmanUnderwriters LabsThomas StollThe Bodine Company,Rep omtstoll@bodine.com5. NFPA 101 ROC Preparation.All comments were addressed. See the ROC letter ballot.6. NFPA 5000 ROC Preparation.All comments were addressed. See the ROC letter ballot.BLD/SAF-MEA October 4-5, 2007 Meeting Minutes / Page 4Page 11 of 126

7. Other Business.Smoke Control. The subject of smoke control, as raised in Proposal 101-117a andComment 101-75 on 7.2.3, was retained on the agenda for the 2012 revision cycle.The changes recommended by the proposal follow.(1) Revise 7.2.3.4 to read as follows:7.2.3.4 Vestibule. Where a vestibule is provided, the doorway from thefloor into the vestibule shall be protected with an approved fire doorassembly having a 1½-hour fire protection rating, and the fire doorassembly from the vestibule to the smokeproof enclosure shall have notless than a 20-minute fire protection rating. Doors shall be designed tominimize air leakage and shall be self-closing or shall be automaticclosing by actuation of a smoke detector within 10 ft (3050 mm) 5 ft (1525mm) of the vestibule door. New doors shall be installed in accordancewith NFPA 105, Standard for the Installation of Smoke Door Assemblies.(2) Revise 7.2.3.8.2 as follows:7.2.3.8.2 The vestibule shall be provided with not less than one airchange per minute and the exhaust shall be 150 percent of the supply.Supply air shall enter and exhaust air shall discharge from the vestibulethrough separate tightly constructed ducts used only for such purposes.Supply air shall enter the vestibule within 6 in. (150 mm) of the floorlevel. The top of the exhaust register shall be located not more than 6 in.(150 mm) below the top of the trap and shall be entirely within the smoketrap area. Doors, when in the open position, shall not obstruct ductopenings. Controlling dampers shall be permitted in duct openings ifneeded to meet the design requirements. pressurized to a minimum of 0.05in. w.g. (12.5 Pa) positive relative to the fire floor and the stair enclosurepressurized to a minimum of 0.05 in. w.g. (12.5 Pa) positive relative to thevestibule.(3) Delete 7.2.3.8.3 in its entirety and renumber existing sectionsaccordingly.7.2.3.8.3 To serve as a smoke and heat trap and to provide an upwardmoving air column, the vestibule ceiling shall be not less than 20 in. (520mm) higher than the door opening into the vestibule. The height shall bepermitted to be decreased where justified by engineering design and fieldtesting.(4) Revise 7.2.3.10.1 as follows:7.2.3.10.1 For both mechanical ventilation and pressurized stairenclosure systems, the activation of the systems shall be initiated by asmoke detector installed in an approved location within 10 ft (3050 mm) 5ft (1525 mm) of the entrance to the smokeproof enclosure, or by flowindication from an approved sprinkler system complying with NFPA 13,or from any approved automatic fire detection and alarm systemcomplying with NFPA 72.The proposal was submitted by the Smoke Management SystemsCommittee (SMO-AAA) – after MEA prepared its ROP and was includedin the ROP as a Rejected proposal by the TCC to permit public review –with the following substantiation: SMO-AAA believes that the currentprovisions of NFPA 101 on smokeproof enclosures are archaic and requirecomplex design arrangements that have a greater propensity for failure ofBLD/SAF-MEA October 4-5, 2007 Meeting Minutes / Page 5Page 12 of 126

the smokeproof enclosure. The provisions could result in designs andinstallations that create negative pressures that draw smoke into theenclosure. Associated issues associated with stack effect and proper dooroperation also exist. The suggested changes address these concerns, andupdate the provisions to information found in referenced standards.8. Future Meetings.The committee will meet next in late October, 2009 to prepare its portion of theReport on Proposals (ROP) for the 2012 code edition. At the chair’s discretion, thecommittee might be convened for a pre-ROP meeting.9. Adjournment.On Thursday, October 4 the meeting was recessed at 6:25 p.m. On Friday, October 5the meeting was reconvened at 7:30 a.m. and adjourned at 3:40 p.m.Minutes prepared by Ron Coté and Linda MacKayBLD/SAF-MEA October 4-5, 2007 Meeting Minutes / Page 6Page 13 of 126

Recommendation:Revise 7.3.1.5 as follows:7.3.1.5 Capacity from a Point of Convergence. Where means of egress from astory above and a story below converge at an intermediate story, the capacity ofthe means of egress from the point of convergence shall be not less than thesum of the required capacity of the two means of egress.Substantiation:The term “required capacity” is correctly used in 7.3.1.4 but is missing from7.3.1.5. The intent is that only the required capacity is needed to be addedtogether. A stair with a minimum width of 44 in. has capacity for 147 persons. Ina two-story building with basement, if the stair from the basement level has arequired capacity of 80 persons but is 44 in. wide, and the stair from the secondfloor has a required capacity of 120 persons but is 44 in. wide, the egress pathfrom the point of convergence needs to be wide enough to accommodate 200persons (that is, 80 120 200) and not 294 (that is, 147 147 294).Page 14 of 126

From:To:cc:Subject:Date:Clary, ShaneBielen, Rich;wmoore@haifire.com; Cote, Ron;Harrington, Greg;RE: NFPA 101 and 731 access control provisionsMonday, March 02, 2009 9:25:54 AMRich:I do not think that this is correct. I believe that there is a requirement for either arequest to exit motion of a release on the door that does not require specialknowledge. I will review when I return from the Standards Council meeting.ShaneOrlando, FLFrom: Bielen, Rich [mailto:rbielen@NFPA.org]Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 11:59 AMTo: Clary, ShaneCc: wmoore@haifire.com; Cote, Ron; Harrington, GregSubject: FW: NFPA 101 and 731 access control provisionsShane there is an issue between the Life Safety Code and NFPA 731 regardinglocking arrangements and egress control. Greg Harrington summarized it very wellin the email below. You may want to take a look at this during your task groupmeetings. If you have any questions, please let me know.RichFrom: Harrington, GregSent: Friday, February 27, 2009 2:21 PMTo: Cote, Ron; Bielen, RichCc: Solomon, RobertSubject: NFPA 101 and 731 access control provisionsThanks for taking time to discuss (separately) the apparent inconsistencies thatwere discovered yesterday via an advisory service call re. the provisions for egressdoors and access control systems in NFPA 101 and NFPA 731.I believe that we’re all in agreement that it’s not possible to meet the criteria of bothdocuments (namely, 101:7.2.1.6.2 and 731:6.1.6) because NFPA 731 permitsarrangements whereby occupants must have “special knowledge” to egress thePage 15 of 126

building (e.g., pushing a request to exit (RTE) button adjacent to the door) or carry“credentials” (e.g., key cards or proximity cards) to unlock an egress door in thedirection of egress travel; such arrangements are prohibited by NFPA 101 (unlesspermitted by the AHJ via equivalency).I thanked the caller for bringing this to our attention, and am hereby handing off theissue to you for resolution with your respective technical committees. If you haveany questions, please let me know.--GregGregory Harrington, P.E.Principal Fire Protection EngineerNFPA – Quincy, MA USANFPA Seminars - Apply the codes with confidence.Register at www.nfpalearn.orgClick here to report this email as spam.Page 16 of 126

NFPA 731Standard for theInstallation of Electronic Premises Security Systems2008 Edition6.1.6* Portal Egress.6.1.6.1 Free Egress.6.1.6.1.1 Free egress shall employ the use of a request‐to‐exit (RTE) device.6.1.6.1.2* When the RTE controls the portal lock, the lock shall open on loss of power.6.1.6.1.3 When activated, RTE devices shall prevent the position sensor from reporting a forced‐openalarm.6.1.6.1.4 The RTE shall be either manual or automatic.6.1.6.1.4.1 Manual.(A) The RTE device shall not require any special instruction or knowledge to use.(B) If a manual RTE device is used as a fail‐safe for an automatic RTE device, it shall be installed so as todirectly release the locking mechanism.6.1.6.1.4.2 Automatic.(A) If the RTE device is a motion detector, it shall be listed for its purpose.(B) When automatic RTE devices are used to unlock portals, they shall be installed so that onlyintentional requests are executed.6.1.6.2* Controlled Egress.6.1.6.2.1 Controlled egress shall require the use of access credentials to be presented to a reader that isinstalled on the secured side of the portal in accordance with 6.1.3.6.1.6.2.2* Active locks used for controlled egress shall meet the requirements of 6.1.4.5.6.1.7 Controllers.6.1.7.1 A controller shall be listed for its purpose.6.1.7.2 A controller shall be installed in accordance with the manufacturer's instructions.6.1.7.3 A controller shall be installed in a space that protects it from damage, tampering, and access byunauthorized personnel.6.1.8 Power Supplies.6.1.8.1 Power supplies shall meet the requirements of Section 4.2.6.1.8.2* Power supplies shall be sized based upon the application and the manufacturer's requirements.6.1.8.3 The voltage and current of the power supply shall be the same as required by the associatedfield devices.6.1.8.4 Power supplies shall be installed in a space that protects them from damage, tampering, andaccess by unauthorized personnel.Page 17 of 126

From:To:cc:Subject:Date:Cote, RonKen Bush (kbush@mdsp.org); David de Vries/Firetech; Josh Elvove (joshua.elvove@gsa.gov); Waymon Jackson (Waymon.Jackson@austin.utexas.edu);Mike Sinsigalli (MSinsigalli@westhartford.org); Joe Versteeg (jhversteeg@aol.com);Jim Lathrop (KAICT@aol.com); Solomon, Robert;New egress task groupMonday, March 02, 2009 1:11:00 PMKen Bush (Enforcer)David deVries (Special Expert and task group chair)Josh Elvove (User)Yes: Bush,Waymon Jackson (User)deVries, Jackson,Sinsigalli, VersteegMike Sinsigalli (Enforcer)Joe Versteeg (Special Expert)Jim Lathrop, chair of SAF-MEA, has asked if you will serve on a Life Safety Codetask group to assist the NFPA 1124 committee on the egress-related portions of itschapter on the retail sale of fireworks. The Standards Council has charged the LifeSafety Technical Committee on Means of Egress with evaluating the egress criteriadeveloped by the NFPA 1124 committee.Task group work will not involve any need to travel for face-to-face meetings. Allwork should be able to be conducted by teleconference. Once the task groupcompletes its work, the full Means of Egress Committee will be balloted forconcurrence.Would you please advise by return e-mail whether you will accept the assignment?Thank you.Ron Coté, P.E.Principal Life Safety EngineerNFPA – Quincy, MA USAPage 18 of 126

From:To:Subject:Date:Solomon, RobertCote, Ron;Fw: NFPA 101/NFPA 5000/NFPA 1124 COORDINATIONMonday, August 03, 2009 9:31:06 AMrobertRobert Solomon, PENFPA----- Original Message ----From: Solomon, RobertTo: 'Jerry Farley' farley@uptime.org Cc: Colonna, GuySent: Wed Jul 29 12:22:39 2009Subject: NFPA 101/NFPA 5000/NFPA 1124 COORDINATIONHi Jerry:I just left a VM for you. As I had noted before, this past April we have set upTask Groups within our Means of Egress and Building Construction projects thatare ready to look at the proposals that are being prepared on NFPA 1124. Atthis point, I do not know if you still want to work that route or just wait untilSeptember when our committees will be having their ROP meetings. Those willbe held the week of September 21st in Cleveland. I can arrange to block sometime on the agenda for the NFPA 1124 subjects.Also, the Committee on Smoke Management Systems will be meeting in Quincyon October 7th. That will be the next opportunity you have to share the smokeand heat venting proposals that the NFPA 1124 committee is developing.Please let me know how you want to proceed.robertRobert Solomon, PENFPAPage 19 of 126

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From:To:cc:Subject:Date:Attachments:Cote, RonWilliam Koffel;Jim Lathrop(AOL); Jim.Quiter@arup.com;Solomon, Robert;Sprinkler TCC Meeting Non-actionThursday, December 11, 2008 10:13:00 AMComment 13-137 Elevator Machine Rooms.pdfI’ve enclosed a copy of Comment 13-137, submitted by Jim Lathrop, and rejectedby the Sprinkler Committee.I suggest that we NOT pursue a NITMAM. The subject of exempting sprinklers fromelevator machine rooms was not raised in the ROP. We

Address List No Phone Means of Egress SAF-MEA Safety to Life Ron Coté 8/19/2009 SAF-MEA Rita C. Guest Principal Carson Guest, Inc. 1776 Peachtree Street NW, Suite 120 Atlanta, GA 30309-2306 American Society of Interior Designers U 7/20/2000 SAF-MEA WaymonJackson Principal University of Texas at Austin 1 University Station, Stop C2600 PO Box .