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MINUTESNFPA Technical Committee on Means of EgressNFPA 101 and NFPA 5000 First Draft MeetingMonday-Tuesday, July 23-24, 2018Minneapolis Marriott City CenterMinneapolis, Minnesota1. Call to order. The meeting was called to order by Chair David Collins at 8:02 a.m.(CDT) on July 23, 2018, at the Minneapolis Marriott City Center, Minneapolis,Minnesota.2. Introductions. The following technical committee members and guests were inattendance:TECHNICAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENTNAMEDavid Collins, PrincipalRyan Alles, PrincipalCharles Barlow, PrincipalKenneth Bush, PrincipalChristopher Coombs, PrincipalMichael Crowley, PrincipalDavid de Vries, PrincipalDavid Frable, PrincipalRita Guest, PrincipalBryan Hoskins, PrincipalXianxu (Sherri) Hu, PrincipalWaymon Jackson, PrincipalJames Lathrop, PrincipalCesar Lujan, PrincipalBrian Marcyjanik, PrincipalDenise Pappas, PrincipalJake Pauls, PrincipalRobert Perry, PrincipalVincent Quinterno, PrincipalCOMPANYThe Preview Group, Inc.Rep.: American Institute of ArchitectsHigh Rise Escape Systems, Inc.Rep.: The Safe Evacuation CoalitionEverGlow NA, Inc.Maryland State Fire Marshal’s OfficeRep: International Fire Marshals AssociationGresham Smith and PartnersJENSEN HUGHESFiretech Engineering Inc.US General Services AdministrationCarson Guest, Inc.Rep.: American Society of Interior DesignersOklahoma State UniversityVerisk Analytics/Insurance Services Office, Inc.University of Texas at AustinKoffel Associates, Inc.National Association of Home BuildersUS Department of Veterans AffairsValcom, Inc.Rep.: National Electrical ManufacturersAssociationJake Pauls Consulting ServicesRep.: American Public Health AssociationRobert Perry Associates Inc.Rep.: Door and Hardware InstituteRhode Island State Fire Marshal’s OfficePage 7 of 144

Kenneth Saks, PrincipalMichael Shulman, PrincipalJ. Francois Simard, PrincipalMichael Tierney, PrincipalKevin Brinkman, VotingAlternateAndrew Berezowski, Alt. to D.PappasDaniel Buuck, Alt. to C. LujanWilliam Koffel, Alt. to J.LathropKevin Phelan, Alt. to C.BadeauKelly Tilton, Alt. to R.SchwarzenbergJohn Woestman, Alt. to M.TierneyGregory Harrington, Secretary(Nonvoting)US National Institutes of HealthUL LLCCirque Du SoleilKellen CompanyRep.: Builders Hardware ManufacturersAssociationNational Elevator Industry, Inc.Honeywell Inc.Rep.: National Electrical ManufacturersAssociationNational Association of Home Builders (NAHB)Koffel Associates, Inc.Liberty Mutual InsuranceUS Central Intelligence AgencyKellen CompanyRep.: Builders Hardware ManufacturersAssociationNational Fire Protection AssociationTECHNICAL COMMITTEE PRINCIPAL MEMBERS NOT PRESENT(NOT LISTED WHERE ALTERNATE ATTENDED)NAMEMark Chan, PrincipalRichard Day, PrincipalSteven DiPilla, PrincipalJoseph Versteeg, PrincipalCOMPANYBay Area Rapid Transit District (BART)Michigan State Fire Marshal’s OfficeESIS Health, Safety & EnvironmentalVersteeg AssociatesGUESTS PRESENTNAMEAli Al-MannaiMohammed Al SulaitiJoe HetzelMarc MuellerKeith PardoeKevin PhelanTyler PierceJen SiscoCOMPANYQatar Civil DefenseQatar Civil DefenseDASMANEIIPardoe Consulting, LLCLiberty Mutual InsuranceUSGNational Fire Protection Association3. Previous meeting minutes. The minutes of the June 20, 2016 Second Draft Meetingwere approved as submitted.Page 8 of 144

4. The process – staff PowerPoint presentation. Staff provided an overview of the firstdraft meeting procedures. See the meeting agenda for the PowerPoint slides.5. Correlating committee minutes with direction for 2018 editions. The committeereviewed the subject area raised by the NFPA 101 and NFPA 5000 CorrelatingCommittees. A public input was submitted related to Item 7.a.ii in the correlatingcommittee meeting minutes (attached to the meeting agenda).6. Emergency stair travel device task group report – J. Pauls. Several public inputsrelated to emergency stair travel devices were submitted. The task group was retained onthe agenda. Task group members include J. Pauls (TG Chair), R. Alles, B. Hoskins, andV. Quinterno.7. Vertical opening task group report – D. Collins. No additional activity since the lastrevision cycle; the task group was discharged with thanks.8. Horizontally-sliding accordion doors for enclosing exit stairs task group report – R.Guest. No additional activity since the last revision cycle; however, the group will meetto determine next steps. The task group was retained on the agenda. Task groupmembers include R. Guest (TG Chair), Brian Batten/Paul Dove, W. Jackson, and V.Quinterno.9. NFPA 101 First Draft preparation. All NFPA 101 Public Inputs (PIs) assigned toSAF-MEA were addressed. First Revisions (FRs) and Committee Inputs (CIs) wereprepared as needed.10. NFPA 5000 First Draft preparation. All NFPA 5000 Public Inputs (PIs) assigned toBLD-MEA were addressed. First Revisions (FRs) and Committee Inputs (CIs) wereprepared as needed.11. Staff-identified issues:a. Delayed-egress release in active-shooter scenarios (e.g., Thornton, COWalmart shooting). The committee discussed the impact of delayed-egress onactive-shooter incidents. There is no clear-cut code answer to the potential issuessince any safeguards incorporated into the codes could likely be renderedineffective by an individual intent on doing harm. It was noted that such systemsare not mandated and nothing prohibits means to override delayed-egresssystems. It is incumbent on the building owner to evaluate the risks and benefitsof such systems from both a life safety from fire and a security perspective.b. Electrical equipment room egress doors (101:7.4.2), coordination with NEC.An FR was prepared to address this issue.12. NFPA 101 editorial review – G. Harrington. Staff advised the committee that NFPA’seditorial group has been reviewing NFPA 101. Revisions might appear in the first draftthat are editorial only (e.g., breaking multiple requirements in a paragraph intoseparately numbered provisions) and will not be subject to ballot.13. Other business.a. A motion passed directing staff to relay to NFPA management the committee’sfrustration with the ongoing TerraView display issues with regard to incoherentlegislative text. Staff notes that it is easier to see what is being revised by viewingthe revisions online rather than in the printed versions in the meeting agendas.Page 9 of 144

b. The committee recognized the chair and staff for their efforts getting through theagenda in the allotted time.c. The committee recognized Jake Pauls for his 41 years of service as a committeemember.14. Future meetings. The committee will likely next meet about one year from now toprepare the second drafts of NFPA 101 and NFPA 5000. Details will be provided whenthey are available.15. Adjournment. The meeting adjourned on July 24, 2018 at 12:05 p.m. (CDT).Page 10 of 144

NFPA 101‐5000 Second Draft MeetingsJune 10‐14 & July 8‐12, 2019NFPA 101 & NFPA 5000Core Second Draft MeetingsIndianapolis Marriott DowntownIndianapolis, IndianaJune 10-14, 2019IT’S A BIG WORLD. LET’S PROTECT IT TOGETHER.TMNFPA.ORG National Fire Protection Association. All rights reserved.NFPA Second Draft MeetingAt this and all NFPA committee meetings, we are concernedwith your safety.If the fire alarm sounds, please egress the building.NFPA.ORG National Fire Protection Association. All rights reserved.Page 11 of 14421

NFPA 101‐5000 Second Draft MeetingsJune 10‐14 & July 8‐12, 2019NFPA Second Draft MeetingMembers: Please verify/update your contact information onroster attached to sign-in list. Members categorized in any interest category whohave been retained to represent the interests ofANOTHER interest category (with respect to issuesaddressed by the TC) shall declare those intereststo the committee and refrain from voting on thoseissues throughout the process.NFPA.ORG National Fire Protection Association. All rights reserved.3NFPA Second Draft MeetingGuests: All guests are required to sign in and identify theiraffiliations. Participation is limited to TC members or thoseindividuals who have previously requested time toaddress the committee. Participation by other guests is permitted at theChair’s discretion.NFPA.ORG National Fire Protection Association. All rights reserved.Page 12 of 14442

NFPA 101‐5000 Second Draft MeetingsJune 10‐14 & July 8‐12, 2019NFPA Second Draft MeetingMembers and Guests: Use of audio recorders or other meanscapable of reproducing verbatimtranscriptions of this meeting is notpermitted.NFPA.ORG National Fire Protection Association. All rights reserved.5Annual 2020 Revision Cycle – Key Dates Public Input Stage (First Draft): First Draft Meeting: July 23-27 and August 20-23, 2018 Posting of First Draft for Balloting Date: before October 17, 2018 Posting of First Draft for Public Comment: February 27, 2019Comment Stage (Second Draft): Public Comment Closing Date: May 8, 2019 Second Draft Meeting Period: June 10-14 and July 8-12, 2019 Posting of Second Draft for Balloting Date: September 11, 2019 Posting of Second Draft for NITMAM: January 22, 2020Tech Session Preparation: NITMAM Closing Date: February 19, 2020 NITMAM / CAM Posting Date: April 1, 2020 NFPA Technical Meeting: June 17, 2020 (Orlando)Standards Council Issuance: Issuance of Documents with CAM: August 14, 2020NFPA.ORG National Fire Protection Association. All rights reserved.Page 13 of 14463

NFPA 101‐5000 Second Draft MeetingsJune 10‐14 & July 8‐12, 2019NFPA Second Draft MeetingVoting During the Second Draft Meeting: Either Principal or Alternate can vote, not both. All Principals are encouraged to have an Alternate. Voting (simple majority) during meeting is used toestablish a base position on Second Revisions. Voting (simple majority) during meeting is also usedto establish Public Comment resolution responses.NFPA.ORG National Fire Protection Association. All rights reserved.7NFPA Second Draft MeetingGeneral Procedures: Follow Robert’s Rules of Order Discussion requires a motionNFPA.ORG National Fire Protection Association. All rights reserved.Page 14 of 14484

NFPA 101‐5000 Second Draft MeetingsJune 10‐14 & July 8‐12, 2019NFPA Second Draft MeetingCommittee Member Actions: Member addresses the chair. Receives recognition from the chair. Member introduces the motion. Another member seconds the motion.NFPA.ORG National Fire Protection Association. All rights reserved.9NFPA Second Draft MeetingCommittee Chair Actions: Restates the motion Calls for discussion Ensures all issues have been heard Calls for a vote Announces the vote resultNFPA.ORG National Fire Protection Association. All rights reserved.Page 15 of 144105

NFPA 101‐5000 Second Draft MeetingsJune 10‐14 & July 8‐12, 2019NFPA Second Draft MeetingMotion to End Debate, Previous Question, or to “Call theQuestion” Not in order when another member has the floor Requires a second Not debatable and DOES NOT automatically stopdebate 2/3 affirmative vote immediately closes debate,returns to the original motion Less than 2/3 allows debate to continueNFPA.ORG National Fire Protection Association. All rights reserved.11NFPA Second Draft Meetingnfpa.org12Page 16 of 1446

NFPA 101‐5000 Second Draft MeetingsJune 10‐14 & July 8‐12, 2019NFPA Second Draft MeetingCommittee Actions and Motions: Reject but Hold the Comment (PC) Reject the Comment (PC) Reject the Comment but See Related Second Revision(SR) Accept and Create a Second Revision (SR)NFPA.ORG National Fire Protection Association. All rights reserved.13NFPA Second Draft MeetingReject but Hold a Public Comment (PC): Committee develops a committee statement to respond to(i.e., reject) a Public Comment. Committee indicates in statement its reasons for notaccepting the recommendation. PC response does not get balloted. PC will appear as a PI during the First Draft meeting of thenext cycleNFPA.ORG National Fire Protection Association. All rights reserved.Page 17 of 144147

NFPA 101‐5000 Second Draft MeetingsJune 10‐14 & July 8‐12, 2019NFPA Second Draft MeetingReject the Comment (PC): Committee develops a committee statement to respond to(i.e., reject) a Public Comment. Committee indicates in statement its reasons for notaccepting the recommendation. PC response does not get balloted.NFPA.ORG National Fire Protection Association. All rights reserved.15NFPA Second Draft MeetingReject the Comment but See Second Revision (SR): SR is created to change current text or add new textbased on the PC. Committee statement is developed to substantiate thechange. Associated PCs get a committee response, often simplyreferring to the relevant SR. Each SR gets balloted.NFPA.ORG National Fire Protection Association. All rights reserved.Page 18 of 144168

NFPA 101‐5000 Second Draft MeetingsJune 10‐14 & July 8‐12, 2019NFPA Second Draft MeetingAccept and Create Second Revision (SR): SR is created to change current text or add new textexactly as the PC recommends. Committee statement is developed to substantiate thechange. Each SR gets balloted.NFPA.ORG National Fire Protection Association. All rights reserved.17NFPA Second Draft MeetingCommittee Statements: All Public Comments must receive a Committee Statement.A valid technical reason must be provided.Vague references to “intent” should not be used.Reasons for why the submitter’s substantiation is inadequate shouldbe provided. A Second Revision should be referenced if it addresses the intent ofthe submitter’s Public Comment.NFPA.ORG National Fire Protection Association. All rights reserved.Page 19 of 144189

NFPA 101‐5000 Second Draft MeetingsJune 10‐14 & July 8‐12, 2019NFPA Second Draft MeetingFormal Voting on Second Revisions In-meeting votes establish a base committee position onthe development of Second Revisions (SRs). SRs are secured by electronic balloting ( 2/3 ofcompleted ballots affirmative, and affirmative by 1/2voting members). Only the results of the electronic ballot determine theofficial position of the committee on the Second Draft.NFPA.ORG National Fire Protection Association. All rights reserved.19NFPA Second Draft MeetingBallots: Only Second Revisions (SR) are balloted Public Comments and Committee Statements not balloted Reference materials are available Second Draft, PC, CC, and CSVoting options: Affirmative on all SRs Affirmative on all SRs with exceptions specifically notedBallot provides option to vote affirmative with commentVote to reject or abstain requires a reasonNFPA.ORG National Fire Protection Association. All rights reserved.Page 20 of 1442010

NFPA 101‐5000 Second Draft MeetingsJune 10‐14 & July 8‐12, 2019NFPA Second Draft MeetingElectronic Balloting: Ballot system is web-based. Alternates are encouraged to complete ballots. Ballot session will time out after 90 minutes. Use “submit” to save your work – ballots can be reviseduntil the balloting period is closed.NFPA.ORG National Fire Protection Association. All rights reserved.21NFPA Second Draft Meeting Click link provided in ballot email. Sign in with NFPA.org username and password.NFPA.ORG National Fire Protection Association. All rights reserved.Page 21 of 1442211

NFPA 101‐5000 Second Draft MeetingsJune 10‐14 & July 8‐12, 2019NFPA Second Draft Meeting Select either ‘Affirmative All’ or ‘Affirmative withException(s)’.NFPA.ORG National Fire Protection Association. All rights reserved.23NFPA Second Draft Meeting Use “See SR- #” link toreview all First Revisions. Use “edit election” tochange individual votes orto modify vote aftersubmitting ballot.NFPA.ORG National Fire Protection Association. All rights reserved.Page 22 of 1442412

NFPA 101‐5000 Second Draft MeetingsJune 10‐14 & July 8‐12, 2019NFPA Second Draft Meeting Make selection:Affirmative with Comment,Negative, or Abstain No selection defaults toaffirmative Must include comment(reason) on each voteother than AffirmativeNFPA.ORG National Fire Protection Association. All rights reserved.25NFPA Second Draft Meeting To complete ballot, click ‘ParticipantConsent and Submit’. Return to edit any votes by ballot due date.NFPA.ORG National Fire Protection Association. All rights reserved.Page 23 of 1442613

NFPA 101‐5000 Second Draft MeetingsJune 10‐14 & July 8‐12, 2019NFPA Second Draft MeetingBalloting: Initial ballot Circulation of negatives and comments – electronicballoting re-opened to permit members to change votes Any Second Revision that fails ballot becomes aCommittee Comment (CC)NFPA.ORG National Fire Protection Association. All rights reserved.27LegalAntitrust Matters: Must comply with state and federal antitrust laws Participants are to conduct themselves in strictaccordance with these laws Read and understand NFPA’s Antitrust Policywhich can be accessed at nfpa.org/regsNFPA.ORG National Fire Protection Association. All rights reserved.Page 24 of 1442814

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NFPA Technical Committee on Means of Egress NFPA 101 and NFPA 5000 A2020 Second Draft Meeting Monday, June 10, 2019 . Plainwell Fire Department 1226 107th Avenue Otsego, MI49078 Michigan Fire Inspectors Society Alternate:PaulL. Dove . MI 49036 Michigan Fire Inspectors Society Principal: RonaldR.Farr E08/17/2018 SAF-MEA Joshua W. Elvove