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to the subconscious memory file without any interference of the conscious mind.Sodomy is what puts the person into that state where you can do it. They mighteven get them so highly programmed that they can just say the word or repeatthe code.E: Can you use sodomy for programming after childhood?M: You can program a 50-year-old person with sodomy.E: But would you have had to have done it at least once when they were small?M: To get a mind control slave, yes. You can’t take a 20-year-old person and makea mind control slave out of them by waiting until they’re 20 years old to do it. Toprogram them like TV and movies do -- you could not make a Monarchprogrammed person if you hadn’t started with them as a child.E: Have victims actually used the word Monarch to describe their programming?M: One of the people I worked with came up with the idea that the wings of themonarch butterfly are actually the pelvic skeletal shape. Then if you add sodomy,you add the abdomen of the butterfly. The other thing about Monarch would bethat these people are told they are royalty or “chosen ones,” given that a lot ofbloodline families in power in the United States claim to be descendants ofEuropean royalty or descendants of monarchs. You could look at it that way. I saythat Monarch programming is basically sodomy programming. Some people arebeing kept in bondage by sodomizing themselves -- [Here the telephone turnsinto static that takes several minutes to rectify.] -- sodomy is used to re-boot thecomputer and reactivate the programming.E: Do you think this is at all behind the big push to accept homosexuality asnormal?M: Of course.E: Do you think all homosexuals are sodomized early?M: I don’t think that very many homosexuals become homosexual without beingsexually abused early. They may not all have been sodomized, but a large portionwere. As far as religions go, Catholics and Masons are at the top of the list. It’spossible that the Catholic hierarchy may even have an unofficial doctrine tosodomize three year olds so as to bind them to the Church. They say, “Give us achild until he’s five and he’ll always be Catholic,” but they don’t start any religioustraining with the children until they’re five. I recently freed a guy who wassodomized by a priest when he was probably three and then at thirteen was putin Boys Town in Nebraska, and the priest there would take him into a room, lockthe doors, and make him do whatever he wanted him to do. A first-hand witnessof the corruption at Boys Town.E: What about Skull and Bones, Scroll and Key -- fraternities of elite sons -- do yousuppose they’re using sodomy as well to make deep bonds for the sake of moneyand power in the families?M: I can’t imagine they haven’t. What is Skull and Bones anyway but the order ofdeath? Why are they doing things connected with the dead? Sodomy is the5

biggest occult power source there is, so how did they get their power without it? Iwas not there, I was never invited to go there, I could not have gone therebecause I was never a victim of sodomy as a child. Now, the Masons do recruitpeople who are innocent bystanders just for the image and the dues. But the realdriving force of the Masons are the sodomites, just check the de Molay thing.E: Tell me a little more about the deep bond that forms among men because ofsodomy.M: Let me tell you a little story. I have been trying to help a woman for the lastfive years to get free of the bondage and victimization that began when she was achild. She was married to a guy who’s wealthy and works for Nike, and is also across-dresser. I even met with the cross-dresser and uncovered that his grandpawas a Mason who treated him like a little girl and sodomized him. This was fromhis mind, not mine -- but he didn’t want to believe it and get right. They have fourchildren, and she’s been sitting there with the damage to the children. She’d beentrying to get something to pin on him, like his pornography on the internet, but healways lied his way out of everything. I called her out of the blue the other dayand she had filed for divorce but still didn’t have anything on him. So I said, “Doyou suppose you might have a spirit of his, like the Strong Man?” So I checked itout and the answer that came from her mind was that the spirit of her husbandhad entered her on her wedding night by sodomy. All she can remember is thatthe wedding night was a bad night. I cast it out. She had a bright red rash on herwhen we were talking about this, but when I cast out the Strong Man spirit withher husband’s name, put in with sodomy, within minutes the rash was completelygone. Within the week, she happened to be at her husband’s new house wherethe daughter was, and the daughter said, “Let me show you something.” Theywent into a big walk-in closet where there was a suitcase with another lockedsuitcase in it. The daughter got the key, opened up the little suitcase, and therewere women’s paraphernalia, lingerie, even the tool to sodomize himself. Shecould not find any evidence on that guy until I got rid of that spirit of sodomyfrom him. Her eyes and the daughter’s eyes were opened.Sodomy has a spiritual component in it that is far more sinister than anybodyrecognizes. It is the most underrated evil power to the general public. But to thepeople who are in the know, they know that this is the ultimate rebellion againstGod Himself. This is what they hope to use to gain the whole human race for theirside and defeat God Himself.E: I’m convinced you’re right that for both mind control and male bonds of power,sodomy is somehow key. What about another brotherhood, the Special Forces -Navy SEALS, Green Berets --elite cadres?M: From what I can gather, I believe they are chosen because the men start outas victims as three year olds. I worked to help get a guy free whose mother ran atopless bar down in California and he had a tremendous internal rage. He didn’tdo very well in school and he had his problems with drugs, but a guy came along6

and got him a full ride of four years at West Point. He should never have gotten inthere. He went in on a football scholarship, but when they got him in there theyswitched him to a boxing scholarship because when he got into boxing, the ragecould be turned on. He heard that some of the initiations coming up in the secondWest Point year included sodomy. I don’t know that they subjected him tosodomy, but he quit before he went more than one year. Just like in war, wheretraumatic things happen that soldiers can’t remember, this is what sodomy doesto the child. The denial system that kicks in produces at least in some people theability to compartmentalize. When you compartmentalize, you can be in a certaincompartment of your mind without detracting from other compartments of yourmind. If you’re in the pure rage compartment, you don’t have any kindness orlove diluting it.E: So in the profiling that the military might use in order to find a man who fits theuntapped rage pattern –M: I could make a profile! I could take a few victims that are healed and sit themdown beside me and we could bring the people through an interview and wecould profile them.E: Why do I think this programming through sodomy acts so much morepowerfully on males than on females?M: It doesn’t, but males and females are different. Females are best for becomingprogrammed computers or human recorders. Most women are more capable ofcreating multiple personality systems because of the way their minds work. Butthe fact is that men are more aggressive, so the percentage of women who aresodomized and become perpetrators is far lower than the percentage of men whobecome perpetrators. They’re all victims to start with, but women just go onbeing victims, they don’t tend to turn into Predators themselves. I’ve worked withmen who did not become perpetrators and remained victims, just like thewomen; and I’ve seen evidence of women who became perpetrators. Witches areperpetrators and just like men, they’re molesters. I’ve worked with people whohad women sodomizing them with objects, molesting children. But thepercentage is lower with women than it is men. A higher percentage of men willtransition from victim to perpetrator. And I’m convinced that there are some menwho compartmentalize in such a way that they do not, on the average, rememberacts of molesting; they will only remember if they get into that compartment.Otherwise, they have amnesiac barriers between the different compartments oftheir minds. Women are that way, too. A perpetrator with an amnesiac barrier isa sad, sad case because they can switch into that compartment and go out andmolest, then switch out and not remember. This is the kind of person they use inSpecial Forces for their assassination teams because they can activate the hiddencompartment that has been programmed for assassination and send them out ona mission. A man who claimed to have been in the South African Special Forces7

told me of two cases where he was sent to assassinate, one in a national park inSouth Africa, and another in London, like in the Bourne Trilogy.E: So sodomy doesn’t need to be used; the trigger word can just be used toactivate thatcompartment.M: I don’t know. I think that they could use sodomy and make them forget thewhole thing. People have been sodomized and they couldn’t remember for threeor six months after it had happened. We didn’t know what was wrong with them,and then later found out somebody took them out and sodomized them. Sodomyis a spiritual thing. Let’s say Ben sodomizes either a man or woman. When hedoes that, that person has a spirit by the name of Ben that changes the way thatperson relates to things. This can even be as an adult. You can’t put the Legionmindset in when they’re 40 years old, but you can put Ben in when they’re 40years old and it will change the way that person thinks. I’ve had different womenwho separated from abusive husbands and for some reason couldn’t break looseof the soul tie to their husband, but when we cast out the sodomy spirit by theirhusband’s name, their feelings about their ex-husbands changed. The most classicexample is the lady who had slept with her husband before they were married,committed adultery at 40 years of age, and when I commanded the Strong Manto give its name it was her husband’s name that entered at 40 when hesodomized her. That spirit of sodomy was more damaging to her than the spirit ofadultery or fornication.E: What is the relationship between sodomy and the House of the Strong Man?M: If a person is sodomized, the Strong Man spirit that Jesus spoke of will be thespirit of the sodomy. It’s actually an unclean spirit and a familiar spirit with thename of the person who did the sodomy. So when you sodomize a three year old,you build the doll house with the three year old trapped inside, and every timethat person is sodomized from that point on a Strong Man enters. So let’s just sayJoseph sodomized the child -- now Joseph and the three-year-old child are in thehouse locked in the core of the mind. Along comes Jack and sodomizes the girllater -- now, there’s Joseph, the child, and Jack. Then comes Ben later, thencomes Sterling, then comes Red, then comes this guy and that guy -- you’ve got awhole legion of sodomites and every one of them has a name, which means thatyou’ve got many spirits of the sodomites in the House of Joseph the Strong Man,the original sodomizer.E: You’re being literal when you say spirit -- that the dissociation that createsmultiples is the entry of one spirit after another.M: Well, some people would like to say that multiple personalities are not spirits.I would like to say that the whole multiple mindset is a demonic mindset, basicallya Legion-style mindset of many, the same as the man in Mark 5 said: “My name isLegion, for we are many,” and Jesus released them all at once. For the benefit ofanybody who was looking on, two thousand pigs went crazy and drowned while8

the man was again clothed and in his right mind. So basically all of his legion ofspirits, multiple personalities, or anything you want to call them, all were goneand his mind was right. The whole multiple mindset is a wrong mindset. It’s afantasy world mindset.E: But it’s not necessarily possession by demonic spirits?M: If you got rid of every demon that multiple personality people have, theywould no longer be multiple.E: So therapists who allow certain helpers or child alters to remain, they’re notdoing a service to the person?M: The person can’t get free as long as they have any of that left because theirmind is not working like God intended it to work.E: So with each sodomy the House of the Strong Man gets stronger and stronger?M: That’s right.E: With a believer who can accept that Jesus Christ can deliver them all at once,you have been able to free people from the House of the Strong Man?M: I’ve had it happen on quite a number of occasions, not every time. There’ssome times that I never did get them to leave.E: With non-believers or believers as well?M: Well, people who said they were believers. But it’s possible to have acompartment of your mind that’s a believer and another compartment that is asodomite. So what are you? A lot of people do not believe me when I say that youcan cast out the Strong Man, the child, and all of the multiple system at once. ButI’ve done it, by the grace of God -- Jesus did it, and others have done it. So whywould I spend my time with some lesser kind of benefit if I already know that theultimate goal is to achieve what I just described? I had a man once who was crazy.He had worked for twelve years to try to get free but was ready to kill his wife. Hecouldn’t work, his marriage was on the rocks, he was at the point of beingcommitted. Somebody told him about me and I finally found a spot for him tocome. I didn’t know anything about him. I met with him one day, uncovered thatJoseph was the Strong Man, that he was Rothschild bloodline and they had usedhim as a male prostitute, sodomized him as a boy in rituals to get the power ofthe bloodline. I cast the whole thing out in one day. He didn’t talk to me again fortwo years. He got well, he’s still well. Two years later he and his wife came andtold me the good things that had happened. He went to his 6,000-member churchto give his testimony of getting well and they wouldn’t even let him use my namebecause they had believed negative propaganda about me. He could give histestimony but all he could say was he met with a man -- couldn’t use my name. Iasked him, “What’d I do different from the rest?” He said, “They went after thestronghold, you went after the Strong Man.”E: When you find out that the name of the Strong Man is Joseph, are you thinkingit’s Mengele?9

M: No. Joseph Mengele was an expert in Mind Control - he was THE biggestJoseph in the last half of the 20th century, but the name Joseph came out of theJesuits and has been around since the 1500’s. It started with devotion to thehusband of Mary, whom they call St. Joseph, and it became a symbol of the fatherof this system, the sodomizing father that cares for his children. When a mansodomizes a child at three, the child bonds to that man as if he were their father,and when he’s a man of the cloth, of the Church, the child bonds to the Church,too. This sodomy thing has been around for hundreds of years. Ignatius Loyola,founder of the Jesuits, was a Catholic mystic; he had to have been a sodomizedone. He was the guy who headed up the Inquisition to persecute those who didn’tadhere to the tenets of the Catholic faith. Terribly cruel! How could you be thatcruel if you didn’t have the sodomy rage? The torture they put people through!Later, Joseph Mengele developed the programming and brought it up to anotherlevel. He was a Catholic altar boy. I think he was also a Rothschild and a Jesuit.The founder of the Illuminati was Adam Weishaupt, trained as a Jesuit.E: Sodomy stands behind multiplicity –M: I haven’t found anybody who was just sexually fondled and became multiple,and I’ve never found anybody who went through occult rituals without sodomy.So I can’t tell you whether being put through a sacrifice ritual without sodomymakes a multiple. People are trying to say that would be the case -- that the ritualmurders and sacrifices are traumatic enough to produce MPD - - but I’ve neverfound a case out there that only had sacrifice. They’ve always had the sodomy.They don’t always remember it, but when push comes to shove, they’ve got thesymptoms. The occult groups know -- and they think all Christians are stupid andcan’t catch on -- they know that sodomy is required to achieve what they want toachieve. If you check this thing out, you’ll find that all the idolatry going clear backto the days of the children of Israel in Egypt have sodomy in it. Jesus said:And as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, untilthe day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came and destroyed themall. Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot: they did eat, they drank, theybought, they sold, they planted, they built; but the same day that Lot went out ofSodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. Eventhus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed. (Luke 17:26-30, KJV)Nothing wrong with marrying, buying and selling; every civilization does it. What’sthe common denominator of these three times? We have more sodomy now outin the open than we’ve ever had. Lot was in Sodom -- that’s where the wordsodomy comes from. It meant anal sex, or as they’re calling it now analintercourse. What other kind of sex do you think they could produce on thoseangels that they tried to break the door down to get to? They wanted to get theirsupernatural power. The belief in the occult world is if you could sodomize God,you’d get God’s power. You become as gods through sodomy; that’s the way the10

Greek gods became gods. Alexander the Great was a great sodomizer and hisGreek army was the most fierce. Hitler tried to pattern his SS and military afterthe Greek warriors using sodomy. When you put that all together, the civilizationsthat God wiped out boiled down to the practice of sodomy. By the way, I’ve foundthat a lot of people’s hemorrhoid problems came from their sodomy.E: So sodomy is a lot more common than people give it credit for.M: Now they’re putting sodomy pornography on the internet. I met a lady whohad a web cam set up in her home for the internet and would sodomize herself inthe nude for the guys out there to watch. She had been a church secretary.E: Is sodomy the connecting link between satanism, Freemasonry, and othergroups, including Jesuits?M: You remember Aleister Crowley. He was a 33rd degree Mason. I talked to BillSchnoebelen one time and asked him, “Where did the Masons get the sodomy?”and he

off with his goods unless he has first tied the strong man up; then he can ransack the house.' (Mark 3:22-27, NE). . But the word Elohim in the Old Testament is actually a good word . In the true sense of the word, Illuminati is a class of people that have illumination in common. In the political sense, you might have people who have .