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R e g i o n a l O r a l H i s t o r y Of f i c eThe Bancrof t L i b r a r yUniversity of C a l i f o r n i aBerkeley, C a l i f o r n i aGovernment H i s t o r y Documentat i o n P r o j e c tRonald Reagan G u b e r n a t o r i a l E r aREPUBLICAN PHILOSOPHY AND PARTY ACTIVISM\J a q u e l i n HumeB a s i c Economics and t h e Body P o l i t i c : Viewso f a N o r t h e r n C a l i f o r n i a Reagan L o y a l i s tE l e a n o r Ring S t o r r sP a r t i e s , P o l i t i c s , and P r i n c i p l e s : " I t ' s a tt h e L o c a l Level"J a c k WratherOn F r i e n d s h i p , P o l i t i c s , and GovernmentT i r s o d e l JuncoC a l i f o r n i a R e p u b l i c a n P a r t y L e a d e r s h i p andS u c c e s s , 1966-1982I n t e r v i e w s Conducted b yG a b r i e l l e M o r r i s and S a r a h Sharp1982-1983Copyright@1984 by t h e Regents of t h e U n i v e r s i t y of C a l f i o r n i a

This manuscript i s made a v a i l a b l e f o r r e s e a r c hpurposes. No p a r t of t h e manuscript may b e quoted f o rp u b l i c a t i o n w i t h o u t t h e w r i t t e n permission of t h eD i r e c t o r of The Bancroft L i b r a r y o f t h e U n i v e r s i t y ofC a l i f o r n i a a t Berkeley.Requests f o r permission t o q u o t e f o r p u b l i c a t i o nshould b e a d d r e s s e d t o t h e Regional Oral H i s t o r y O f f i c e ,486 L i b r a r y , and s h o u l d i n c l u d e i d e n t i f i c a t i o n of t h es p e c i f i c passages t o be quoted, a n t i c i p a t e d u s e of t h epassages, and i d e n t i f i c a t i o n of t h e u s e r .It i s recommended t h a t t h i s o r a l h i s t o r y b e c i t e da s follows:To cTte t h e volume: )P a r t y Activism, an o r a l h i s t o r y conducted1982-1983, Regional Oral H i s t o r y O f f i c e , TheBancroft L i b r a r y , U n i v e r s i t y of C a l i f o r n i a ,Berkeley, 19 84.To c i t e an i n d i v i d u a l i n t e r v i e w : J a q u e l i nHume, "Basic Economics and t h e Body P o l i t i c :V i e w s of a Northern C a l i f o r n i a Reagan L o y a l i s t , "an o r a l h i s t o r y conducted 1982 by G a b r i e l l eMorris, i n Republican Philosophy and P a r t yActivism, Regional O r a l H i s t o r y O f f i c e , TheBancroft L i b r a r y , U n i v e r s i t y of C a l i f o r n i a ,Berkeley, 1984.Copy No.

On behalf of f u t u r e s c h o l a r s , t h e Regional O r a l H i s t o r yO f f i c e w i s h e s t o thank t h o s e who have responded t o t h e O f f i c e ' sr e q u e s t f o r funds t o c o n t i n u e documentation of Ronald Reagan'sDonors t o t h e p r o j e c t a s ofy e a r s a s governor of C a l i f o r n i a .May 1984 a r e l i s t e d below.AnonymousMargaret BrockMonroe BrowneEdward W. C a r t e rSherman ChickeringA y l e t t B. CottonJ u s t i n DartWilliam C. EdwardsWilliam Randolph H e a r s tWilliam HewlettJaque 1i n e Hume.Ear l e JorgensenL. W. Lane, Jr.Gordon C. LuceNorman B. Livermore, Jr.Joseph A. and Gladys G. MooreDavid PackardRobert 0. ReynoldsHenry and Grace S a l v a t o r iP o r t e r SesnonDean A. Watkins

PREFACEC a l i f o r n i a government and p o l i t i c s from 1966 through 1974 a r e t h e focus oft h e Reagan Gubernatorial Era S e r i e s of t h e s t a t e Government H i s t o r y Documentat i o n P r o j e c t , conducted by t h e Regional Oral H i s t o r y O f f i c e of The BancroftL i b r a r y w i t h t h e p a r t i c i p a t i o n of t h e o r a l h i s t o r y programs a t t h e Davis andLos Angeles campuses of t h e U n i v e r s i t y of C a l i f o r n i a , Claremont Graduate School,and C a l i f o r n i a S t a t e U n i v e r s i t y a t F u l l e r t o n . This series of i n t e r v i e w s c a r r i e sforward s t u d i e s of s i g n i f i c a n t i s s u e s and p r o c e s s e s i n p u b l i c a d m i n i s t r a t i o nbegun by t h e Regional Oral H i s t o r y O f f i c e i n 1969. I n previous series, i n t e r views with over 220 l e g i s l a t o r s , e l e c t e d and appointed o f f i c i a l s , and o t h e r sa c t i v e i n p u b l i c l i f e during t h e governorships of E a r l Warren, Goodwin Knight,and Edmund Brown, Sr., were completed and a r e now a v a i l a b l e t o s c h o l a r s .The f i r s t u n i t i n t h e Government H i s t o r y Documentation P r o j e c t , t h e E a r lWarren S e r i e s , produced i n t e r v i e w s w i t h Warren himself and o t h e r s c e n t e r e d onkey developments i n p o l i t i c s and government a d m i n i s t r a t i o n a t t h e s t a t e andcounty l e v e l , innovations i n c r i m i n a l j u s t i c e , p u b l i c h e a l t h , and s o c i a l w e l f a r efrom 1925-1953. Interviews i n t h e Knight-Brown Era c o n t i n u e d t h e e a r l i e ri n q u i r i e s i n t o t h e n a t u r e of t h e governor's o f f i c e and i t s r e l a t i o n s withe x e c u t i v e departments and t h e l e g i s l a t u r e , a n d e x p l o r e d t h e r a p i d s o c i a l andeconomic changes i n t h e y e a r s 1953-1966, a s w e l l a s p r e s e r v i n g Brown's ownaccount of h i s e x t e n s i v e p o l i t i c a l c a r e e r . Among t h e i s s u e s documented weret h e rise and f a l l of t h e Democratic p a r t y ; e s t a b l i s h m e n t of t h e C a l i f o r n i a WaterPlan; e l e c t i o n law changes, reapportionment and new p o l i t i c a l techniques;e d u c a t i o n and v a r i o u s s o c i a l programs.During Ronald e a a n y' se a r s a s governor, important changes became e v i d e n ti n C a l i f o r n i a government and p o l i t i c s . H i s a d m i n i s t r a t i o n marked an end t o t h ep r o g r e s s i v e p e r i o d which had provided t h e determining o u t l i n e s of governmento r g a n i z a t i o n and p o l i t i c a l s t r a t e g y s i n c e 1910 and t h e beginning of a p e r i o d ofl i m i t s i n s t a t e p o l i c y and programs, t h e e x t e n t of which i s n o t y e t c l e a r .Interviews i n t h i s s e r i e s d e a l with t h e e f f o r t s of t h e a d m i n i s t r a t i o n t o i n c r e a s egovernment e f f i c i e n c y and economy and with o r g a n i z a t i o n a l i n n o v a t i o n s designedt o expand t h e management c a p a b i l i t y of t h e governor's o f f i c e , a s w e l l a s c r i t i c a la s p e c t s of s t a t e h e a l t h , education, w e l f a r e , c o n s e r v a t i o n , and c r i m i n a l j u s t i c eprograms. L e g i s l a t i v e and e x e c u t i v e department n a r r a t o r s provide t h e i r perspect i v e s on t h e s e e f f o r t s and t h e i r impact on t h e c o n t i n u i n g process of l e g i s l a t i v eand e l e c t i v e p o l i t i c s .Work began on t h e Reagan Gubernatorial Era S e r i e s i n 1979. Planning andr e s e a r c h f o r t h i s phase of t h e p r o j e c t were augmented by p a r t i c i p a t i o n of o t h e ro r a l h i s t o r y programs w i t h experience i n p u b l i c a f f a i r s . A d d i t i o n a l a d v i s o r swere s e l e c t e d t o provide r e l e v a n t background f o r i d e n t i f y i n g persons t o beinterviewed and understanding of i s s u e s t o be documented. P r o j e c t r e s e a r c hf i l e s , developed by t h e Regional Oral H i s t o r y O f f i c e s t a f f t o provide as y s t e m a t i c background f o r q u e s t i o n s , were updated t o add p e r s o n a l , t o p i c a l , andc h r o n o l o g i c a l d a t a f o r t h e Reagan period t o t h e e x i s t i n g base of informationf o r 1925 through 1966, and t o supplement r e s e a r c h by p a r t i c i p a t i n g programs a sneeded. Valuable, c o n t i n u i n g a s s i s t a n c e i n p r e p a r i n g f o r i n t e r v i e w s wasprovided by t h e Hoover I n s t i t u t i o n a t Stanford U n i v e r s i t y , which houses t h eRonald Reagan Papers, and by t h e S t a t e Archives i n Sacramento.

A n e f f o r t was made t o s e l e c t a range of i n t e r v i e w e e s t h a t would r e f l e c tt h e i n c r e a s e i n government r e s p o n s i b i l i t i e s and t h a t would r e p r e s e n t d i v e r s ep o i n t s of view. I n g e n e r a l , p a r t i c i p a t i n g programs were c o n t r a c t e d t o conducti n t e r v i e w s on t o p i c s with which they have p a r t i c u l a r e x p e r t i s e , w i t h personsp r e s e n t l y l o c a t e d nearby. Each i n t e r v i e w i s i d e n t i f i e d a s t o t h e o r i g i n a t i n gi n s t i t u t i o n . Most i n t e r v i e w e e s have been queried on a l i m i t e d number of t o p i c sw i t h which they were p e r s o n a l l y connected; a few n a r r a t o r s with unusual breadthof experience have been asked t o d i s c u s s a m u l t i p l i c i t y of s u b j e c t s . Whenp o s s i b l e , t h e i n t e r v i e w s have t r a c e d t h e c o u r s e of s p e c i f i c i s s u e s l e a d i n g upt o and r e s u l t i n g from e v e n t s d u r i n g t h e Reagan a d m i n i s t r a t i o n i n o r d e r t odevelop a sense of t h e c o n t i n u i t y and i n t e r r e l a t i o n s h i p s t h a t a r e a s i g n i f i c a n ta s p e c t o f t h e government process.Throughout Reagan's y e a r s a s governor, t h e r e was c o n s i d e r a b l e i n t e r e s t ands p e c u l a t i o n concerning h i s p o t e n t i a l f o r t h e presidency; by t h e time interviewi n g f o r t h i s p r o j e c t began i n l a t e 1980, h e was indeed p r e s i d e n t . P r o j e c ti n t e r v i e w e r s have attempted, where a p p r o p r i a t e , t o r e t r i e v e r e c o l l e c t i o n s oft h a t contemporary concern a s i t operated i n t h e governor's o f f i c e . The i n t e n tof t h e p r e s e n t i n t e r v i e w s , however, i s t o document t h e c o u r s e of C a l i f o r n i agovernment from 1967 t o 1974, and Reagan's impact on i t . While many interviewe e s frame t h e i r n a r r a t i v e s of t h e Sacramento .years i n r e l a t i o n t o g o a l s andperformance of Reagan's n a t i o n a l a d m i n i s t r a t d o n , t h e i r comments o f t e n c l a r i f y' a s p e c t s o f t h e g u b e r n a t o r i a l p e r i o d t h a t were n o t c l e a r a t t h e time. Likeo t h e r h i s t o r i c a l documentation, t h e s e o r a l h i s t o r i e s do n o t i n themselvesprovide t h e complete record of t h e p a s t . It i s hoped t h a t t h e y o f f e r f i r s t h a n dexperience of p a s s i o n s and p e r s o n a l i t i e s t h a t have i n f l u e n c e d s i g n i f i c a n t e v e n t sp a s t and p r e s e n t .The Reagan G u b e r n a t o r i a l Era S e r i e s was begun w i t h funding from t h eC a l i f o r n i a l e g i s l a t u r e v i a t h e o f f i c e of t h e S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e andcontinued through t h e g e n e r o s i t y of v a r i o u s i n d i v i d u a l donors. S e v e r a lmemoirs have been funded i n p a r t by t h e C a l i f o r n i a Women i n P o l i t i c s P r o j e c tunder a g r a n t from t h e National Endowment f o r t h e Humanities, i n c l u d i n g amatching g r a n t from t h e Rockefeller Foundation; by t h e S i e r r a Club P r o j e c te l s o under a NEH g r a n t ; and by t h e p r i v a t e l y funded Bay Area S t a t e andRegional Planning P r o j e c t . This j o i n t funding h a s enabled s t a f f working w i t hn a r r a t o r s and t o p i c s r e l a t e d t o s e v e r a l p r o j e c t s t o expand t h e scope andthoroughness of each i n d i v i d i a l i n t e r v i e w involved by c a r e f u l c o o r d i n a t i o n oft h e i r work.The Regional Oral H i s t o r y O f f i c e was e s t a b l i s h e d t o t a p e r e c o r d autobiog r a p h i c a l i n t e r v i e w s w i t h persons s i g n i f i c a n t i n t h e h i s t o r y of C a l i f o r n i aand t h e West. The O f f i c e i s under t h e a d m i n i s t r a t i v e d i r e c t i o n of James D.H a r t , D i r e c t o r of t h e Bancroft L i b r a r y , and Willa Baum, head of t h e O f f i c e .Copies of a l l i n t e r v i e w s i n t h e s e r i e s a r e a v a i l a b l e f o r r e s e a r c h u s e i nThe Bancroft L i b r a r y , UCLA Department of S p e c i a l C o l l e c t i o n s , and t h e S t a t eArchives i n Sacramento. S e l e c t e d i n t e r v i e w s a r e a l s o a v a i l a b l e a t o t h e rmanuscript d e p o s i t o r i e s .J u l y 1982Regional Oral H i s t o r y O f f i c e486 The Bancroft L i b r a r yU n i v e r s i t y of C a l i f o r n i a a t BerkeleyG a b r i e l l e MorrisProject Director

REAGAN GUBERNATORIAL ERA PROJECTAdvisory CouncilJames W, LeibyEdwin Meese 111Sheldon L. MessingerJames R. MillsWilliam K. MuirCharles. PalmA. Alan P o s tA l b e r t S. RoddaEd SalzmanP a u l SeaburyAlex S h e r r i f f sMichael E. SmithA. R u r i c ToddMolly St u r g e s T u t h i l lRaymond WolfingerEugene Bardach.C h a r l e s BensonNicole B i g g a r tJohn BumsLou CannonB e r t CoffeyEdmund C o n s t a n t i n iLawrence deGraafEnid DouglassHarold E. GeiogueJames GregoryRonald G r e l eGary HamiltonMary E l l e n LearyEugene C. LeeInterviewersMalca C h a l lA.I. Dickman*Enid DouglassS t e v e EdgingtonHarvey GrodyG a b r i e l l e MorrisSarah SharpJ u l i e ShearerStephen S t e r nH i t c h Tuchman;n*Deceased d u r i n g t h e &of t h e p r o j e c t

INTRODUCTIONI n Republican Philosophy and P a r t y Activism, J a q u e l i n Hume, Eleanor RingS t o r r s , J a c k Wrather and T i r s o d e l Junco d i s c u s s t h e i r long-time p h i l o s o p h i c a la f f i n i t y f o r Ronald Reagan and t h e Republican p a r t y . A l l f o u r i n t e r v i e w e e s f o rt h i s c u r r e n t volume inthe Ronald Reagan-Gubernatorial Era o r a l h i s t o r y p r o j e c tspeak from l o n g acquaintance w i t h Reagan and w i t h o t h e r n o t a b l e C a l i f o r n i aRepublic-,ans.I n "Basic Economics and t h e Body P o l i t i c : Views of a Northern C a l i f o r n i aReagan L o y a l i s t , " Hume c o n s i d e r s h i s e a r l y p o l i t i c a l a c t i v i t i e s i n t h e N a t i o n a lRepublican Congressional Campaign Committee, t h e 1952 C i t i z e n s f o r Eisenhowerp r e s i d e n t i a l campaign, and t h e 1954 Eisenhower Congressional Committee. Humebecame a c t i v e a g a i n i n p o l i t i c s when h e was t h e Northern C a l i f o r n i a FinanceChairman f o r Barry Goldwater, S r . i n t h e 1963-1964 p e r i o d , and only t h e n becauseGoldwater " t y p i f i e d t h e p o l i t i c a l philosophy" which Hume s u p p o r t e d . This organiz a t i o n a l w o r k f o r Eisenhower and Goldwater s e t t h e s t a g e f o r t h e long-termcommitment which Hume made t o t h e p a r t y ' s newcomer, Ronald Reagan, beginningi n 1964 and c o n t i n u i n g t o t h e p r e s e n t day. A s do t h e o t h e r i n t e e w e e si n c l u d e dh e r e , Hume makes cameo n o t e s about Republican p a r t y l e a d e r s Richard Nixon,W i l l i a m Knowland, and o t h e r s , who p a r r i e d f o r power w i t h i n t h e p a r t y a g a i n s tReagan d u r i n g h i s C a l i f o r n i a y e a r s .It i s i n h i s d i s c u s s i o n of h i s work w i t h t h e Reagan 1966 g u b e r n a t o r i a lcampaign, and t h e t r a n s i t i o n p e r i o d of e a g a n ' s governorship through 1967, t h a tHume e l u c i d a t e s h i s philosophy of t h e p a r t y and p a r t y a d h e r e n t s i n a c t i o n ; andt h e need f o r e f f i c i e n c y i n s t a t e government o v e r a l l and adequate p e r s o n n e l t oi n s u r e t h a t e f f i c i e n c y . Hume c r e d i t s himself w i t h t h e e s t a b l i s h m e n t of whati n f o r m a l l y became known as t h e "loaned e x e c u t i v e program" i n which a d v i s o r st o t h e new governor s o u g h t o u t management p e r s o n n e l from v a r i o u s C a l i f o r n i af i r m s t o f i l l key a p p o i n t i v e vacancies i n t h e Reagan a d m i n i s t r a t i o n . Humeconcludes t h a t t h e s e a d v i s o r s were l o o k i n g f o r "people who would do a goodjoband who were p h i l o s o p h i c a l l y d e d i c a t e d t o a p r i v a t e e n t e r p r i s e , conservat i v e , p r o f i t - o r i e n t e d s o c i e t y . " Hume comments f u r t h e r on t h e theme of e f f i c i e n c yi n s t a t e government w i t h n o t e s on t h e s u c c e s s of t h e Governor's Survey onE f f i c i e n c y and Cost C o n t r o l , t h e 1967-68 t a s k f o r c e which became a hallmark ofGovernor e a g a n ' s i n t e r e s t i n ways t o t r i m unnecessary s t a t e expenses andoperations.I n his o b s e r v a t i o n s on C a l i f o r n i a p o l i t i c a l campaigns and e l e c t i o n s , Humep r e s e n t s t h e c r i t i c a l theme of l o c a l involvement and v o l u n t e e r o r g a n i z a t i o n t osupplement t h e formal p a r t y s t r u c t u r e . ( S t o r r s echoes t h i s theme i n h e r owno r a l h i s t o r y i n t e r v i e w . ) F u r t h e r , i n r e f l e c t i n g on fund r a i s i n g , Hume remarkst h a t t h a t i s d i f f e r e n t i n t h e n o r t h e r n p a r t of t h e Golden S t a t e , e s p e c i a l l y i nSan Francisco: "You have many people h e r e who have i n h e r i t e d wealth .[and who]a r e not prepared t o b e a s a g g r e s s i v e i n s u p p o r t i n g a c o n t r o v e r s i a l program a s

some who have earned t h e i r wealth. Also, many people with i n h e r i t e d wealthseem t o have a g u i l t complex about t h e i r i n h e r i t a n c e and f e e l t h a t t h e y havea n o b l i g a t i o n t o s u p p o r t l i b e r a l causes.''Throughout t h e i n t e r v i e w , Hume keeps t h e importance of the development ofp o l i t i c a l philosophy b e f o r e him. I n Reagan's c a s e , t h i s development progressedfrom h i s i d e a s generated w h i l e speaking f o r General E l e c t r i c , through h i s y e a r sa s governor, and culminated i n t h e presidency.I n " P a r t i e s , P o l i t i c s - , and P r i n c i p l e : It's a t t h e Local Level," EleanorRing S t o r r s c h r o n i c l e s the. twin themes of her philosophy, about t h e c o r r e c t r o l eof women i n p o l i t i c s . (as v o l u n t e e r s working on t h e f o c a l l e v e l ) and h e r s u p p o r tf o r Ronald -Reagan a s a p o l i t i . c a 1 and philosophi.ca1 l e a d e r ( s t a r t i n g w i t h h i se a r l i e s t a f f i l i a t i o n with Republicans as a t e n t a t i v e g u b e r n a t o r i a l c a n d i d a t esupported by C i t i z e n s f o r C o n s t r u c t i v e Action).Within S t o r r s ' s d i s c u s s i o n of h e r own e f f o r t s i n t h e Republican p a r t y a r et h e h i s t o r y of o p e r a t i o n s i n San Diego County (both t h e Women's F e d e r a t i o n andt h e main county s t r u c t u r e ) , as w e l l as n o t e s on t h e 1964, 1968, and 1972Republican n a t i o n a l conventions, and on t h e Republican National Committee.S t o r r s ' s involvement i n l o c a l p o l i t i c s began w i t h her o p p o s i t i o n t o t h ec o n s t r u c t i o n of t h e c o n t r o v e r s i a l Coronado Bridge i n 1957-1958.A s a r e s u l t oft h i s a c t i o n , s h e became a member of t h e Coronado Republican Women's Club, ands o of t h e San Diego County F e d e r a t i o n of Republican Women. A s w i t h Hume, S t o r r sr e f e r s t o o t h e r n o t a b l e C a l i f o r n i a p o l i t i c o s ; s h e confirms t h e importance ofL u c i l e Hosmer and Marjorie Benedict among t h e l e a d e r s h i p of Republican womenaround t h e s t a t e . Readers may b e i n t e r e s t e d t o s e e Hosmer's and Benedict'sown i n t e r v i e w s i n t h e C a l i f o r n i a Women P o l i t i c a l Leaders s e r i e s , a l s o a p r o j e c tof t h e Regional O r a l H i s t o r y O f f i c e .A s p a r t of h e r n o t e s on Republican n a t i o n a l p o l i t i c s , S t o r r s r e c a l l s h e rp a r t i c i p a t i o n i n t h e 1972 n a t i o n a l convention. I n e a r l y summer t h e conventionw a s moved from i t s scheduled s i t e of San Diego t o M i a m i Beach, F l o r i d a , becauseof a s e n s i t i v e p o l i t i c a l s i t u a t i o n w i t h a l l e g a t i o n s of c o r p o r a t e c o n t r i b u t i o n st o t h e f i r s t s i t e . Although t h i s move absolved h e r of major r e s p o n s i b i l i t y f o rconvention p l a n s , S t o r r s immediately s t e p p e d i n t o assist n a t i o n a l c o d t t e e woman from F l o r i d a Paula Hawkins, l a t e r Senator Hawkins. A s w i t h many of h e rp o l i t i c a l anecdotes, S t o r r s combines humorous s i d e l i g h t s w i t h remarks ons i g n i f i c a n t a c t i v i t i e s . While f i n i s h i n g last-minute d e t a i l s on t h e conventionf l o o r , Hawkins and S t o r r s were t r e a t e d t o E t h e l Merman's r e h e a r s a l of h e rperformance f o r t h e d e l e g a t e s : "Paula and I both s a t down and t h e r e s h e sangf o r an hour o r so--you know, ' l e t ' s do i t a g a i n , a l i t t l e f a s t e r h e r e , a l i t t l eslow t h e r e l . . . t h e n both of us got up and j u s t clapped l i k e crazy!" I n t h e n e x tparagraph, S t o r r s r e c a l l s r e p r e s e n t i n g Governor Reagan a t a l a t e - n i g h t meetingof Republican governors who were d i s c u s s i n g convention p l a t f o r m i s s u e s ; s h e tooka c o n s e r v a t i v e s t a n c e . This w a s one of many i n s t a n c e s where S t o r r s s t o o d i nf o r Reagan, "because we have always thought along t h e same l i n e s , you know whatI mean?"

Also i n c l u d e d i n t h i s volume is a n i n t e r v i e w with J a c k Wrather, "OnF r i e n d s h i p , P o l i t i c s , and Government." Wrather remembers his work and s u p p o r tf o r Ronald Reagan from t h e y e a r s when they were f r i e n d s w h i l e b o t h worked i nt h e movie i n d u s t r y i n Los Angeles. I n t h i s summary sketch., Mrather beginsw i t h d i n n e r p a r t y d i s c u s s i o n s h e l d s h o r t l y a f t e r Barry Goldwater, S r . ' s d e f e a ti n h i s 1964 p r e s i d e n t i a l campaign: ll[W]e'd s i t and d i s c u s s what t h e h e l lhappened t o Barry, wky, and how t e r r i f i c t h a t commercial [ t h e famous speech"A Time f o r Choosing1'] was of Ron's."He r e l a t e s how t h e s e f r i e n d s , some ofwhom l a t e r became t h e k i t c h e n c a b i n e t , t h e n encouraged Reagan t o run f o rgovernor. As do t h e o t h e r i n t e r v i e w e e s i n t h i s volume, and many i n t h i ss e r i e s , Wrather keeps h i s eyes focused on Reagan i n his c u r r e n t p o s i t i o n .He r e c a l l s Reagan's n a t i o n a l e f f o r t s w h i l e viewing t h e Nixon, Ford, and C a r t e rp r e s i d e n t i a l nominations and - a d m i n i s t r a t i o n s i n r e t r o s p e c t , Wrather concludest h i s s e c t i o n of t h e i n t e r v i e w by drawing a s t r a i g h t l i n e from the 1966 gubernat o r i a l campaign t o t h e p r e s i d e n t i a l t r a n s i t i o n i n 1980; h e i n c l u d e s himselfamong t h o s e who have been f a i t h f u l t o Reagan's g o a l s and e f f o r t s over t h e s eyears.Besides his discussi.on o f a a s t i n g R e a g a n i n h i s campaign, Wrather thoughtf u l l y c o n s i d e r s his c a n d i d a t e ' s i d e a s about government, economics, and properb u s i n e s s p r i n c i p l e s , beginning w i t h 1966: 'We thought they were t h e r i g h ti d e a s Iwhich Reagan had] and t h a t t h e y would win t h e day because t h e o t h e ri d e a s t h a t we were f i g h t i n g were s u c h dormant, a r c h a i c k i n d s of i d e a s i n r e g a r dWe happened t o b et o government f i n a n c e s and f i s c a l p o l i c y and e v e r y t h i n gc o r r e c t , and t h a t was t h a t . " And, f u r t h e r on, ".Ron himself is a v e r y goodbusinessman, a good b u s i n e s s brain.he understands t h a t .y ou c a n ' t spend moremoney than you've got very long w i t h o u t going broke, u n l e s s you've got a r i c hu n c l e who's s u p p o r t i n g you, l i k e t h e government has been s u p p o r t i n g everybody.".An i n t e r v i e w w i t h T i r s o d e l Junco concludes t h i s volume. Del Juncocme from Cuba t o t h e United S t a t e s around 1 9 6 0 ; - h e now maintains abusy medical p r a c t i c e i n Los Angeles. He t o o came t o know Reagan from t h e1964 Goldwater campaign, and t h e i r a c q u a i n t a n c e developed d u r i n g d e l Junco'sy e a r s i n t h e p a r t y ' s h i e r a r c h y which i n c l u d e d chairmanship of t h e RepublicanS t a t e C e n t r a l Committee i n 1981-82.I n t h e i n t e r v i e w d e l Junco d i s c u s s e st h e p a r t y ' s i n c r e a s i n g e f f e c t i v e n e s s i n r a i s i n g campaign funds, and i n g e t t i n gRepublicans t o v o t e . He a l s o n o t e s h i s own s u c c e s s i n b u i l d i n g a s t r o n gHispanic p r e s e n c e w i t h i n the p a r t y , i n c l u d i n g t h e e s t a b l i s h m e n t of t h e HispanicCouncil.Del Junco s h a r e s t h e enthusiasm f o r Ronald Reagan, his philosophy andl e a d e r s h i p , t h a t t h e o t h e r i n t e r v i e w e e s i n this volume express. While d e lJunco f o c u s e s p r i m a r i l y on Reagan a s p r e s i d e n t and t h e l e a d e r s h i p which h ehas brought t o t h i s p o s i t i o n , d e l Junco a l s o c r e d i t s Reagan w i t h l e a d i n g t h eRepublican p a r t y i n C a l i f o r n i a t o a h i g h e r , more u n i f i e d plane. "He h a sbeen o u r l e a d e r , " d e l Junco remarks t o t h e i n t e r v i e w e r , "but h e h a s n o t beena c o n t r o v e r s i a l l e a d e r . He has been a c l e a n , f a i t h f u l l e a d e r , u p f r o n t a t a l ltimes l1.

A s p e c i a l p r i v i l e g e which o r a l h i s t o r y i n p o l i t i c a l documentation p r e s e n t sl i e s i n t h e o p p o r t u n i t y t o d i s c u s s " t h e g r e a t man," i n b o t h t h e o r y and person,w i t h t h o s e who worked around him--in e a r l i e r c a r e e r s , i n campaigns and p r e v i o u sa d m i n i s t r a t i o n s , i n admiring f r i e n d s h i p s and i n a d v e r s a r i a l r e l a t i o n s h i p s .This volume samples t h o s e who worked w i t h Reagan i n h i s C a l i f o r n i a y e a r s .Other volumes i n t h e Ronald Reagan G u b e r n a t o r i a l Era s e r i e s c o n t r i b u t e addit i o n a l p o r t r a i t s of Reagan himself and of t h o s e persons who worked w i t h him,o r who p a r t i c i p a t e d i n i s s u e s c r i t i c a l t o t h e 1966-1974 p e r i o d i n C a l i f o r n i as t a t e government h i s t o r y .There a r e a few n o t e s t o r e c o r d r e g a r d i n g t h e procedures involved i n t h econduct of t h e s e i n t e r v i e w s . J a q u e l i n Hume was i n t e r v i e w e d on 26 January 1982,Eleanor Ring S t o r r s on 1 5 February 1983, J a c k Wrather on 30 September 1982,and T i r s o d e l Junco on 30 November 1982. The i n t e r v i e w e r s s e n t s e s s i o no u t l i n e s t o t h e s e i n t e r v i e w e e s ahead of t i m e , and r e t u r n e d t h e roughly e d i t e di n t e r v i e w t r a n s c r i p t s t o them f o r t h e i r review and c o r r e c t i o n s . The i n t e r viewees v a r i e d i n t h e i r approaches t o t h i s review p r o c e s s : Hume, Wrather andd e l Junco made very few e d i t o r i a l changes i n t h e i r t r a n s c r i p t s , w h i l e S t o r r sanswered a d d i t i o n a l q u e s t i o n s and c l e a r e d up s e v e r a l vague passages.Sarah SharpInterviewer-EditorF1 2 March 1984Regional O r a l H i s t o r y O f f i c e486 The Bancroft L i b r a r yU n i v e r s i t y of C a l i f o r n i a a t Berkeley

U n i v e r s i t y of C a l i f o r n i aBerkeley, C a l i f o r n i aRegional Oral H i s t o r y O f f i c eThe Bancroft L i b r a r yGovernment H i s t o r y Documentation P r o j e c tRonald Reagan G u b e r n a t o r i a l EraJaque l i n HumeBASIC ECONOMICS AND THE BODY POLITIC:VIEWS OF A NORTHERN CALIFORNIA REAGAN LOYALISTAn I n t e r v i e w Conducted byGabrielZe Morrisi n 1982Copyright,@ 1984by t h e Regents of t h e U n i v e r s i t y of C a l i f o r n i a

TABLE OF CONTENTSII1I11IVJ a q u e l i n HumePERSONAL BACKGROUND, POLITICAL CONCERNSBuilding a Business in Food P r o c e s s i n gSupport f o r Nixon and Eisenhower i n t h e 1950sThe Goldwater 1964 CampaignNorthern and Southern C a l i f o r n i a P o l i t i c a l A t t i t u d e sELECTING RONALD REAGAN GOVERNORG e t t i n g t o Know t h e CandidateBuilding SupportThe 1966 CampaignGeorge C h r i s t o p h e r ' s Primary RaceCLEANING HOUSE FOR THE NEW ADMINISTRATIONWork of t h e Appointments CommitteeTask Force on Government E f f i c i e n c y and EconomyOBSERVING REAGAN AS GOVERNOR: PRESIDENTIAL POTENTIALServing a s Chief of P r o t o c o lS t a y i n g i n Touch w i t h t h e Governor's O f f i c eRepublican P a r t y M a t t e r sI d e a s from t h e General l e c t r i cYearsTAPE GUIDEINDEX--

IPERSONAL BACKGROUND; POLITICAL CONCERNS[ I n t e r v i e w 1: January 26, 1982]##Building a Business i n Food P r o c e s s i n gMorris:I would l i k e t o b e g i n by a s k i n g you a l i t t l e b i t about your p e r s o n a lThe name Hume i s an i n t e r e s t i n g , unusual one.background.As Iasked you when I wrote, I wonder i f you a r e r e l a t e d t o J a m s Mume ofWells Fargo Express ?Hum :No, I am n o t .I have no n e a r Hume r e l a t i v e s i n C a l i f o r n i a .I thinkt h a t many Humes i n t h i s country a r e descended from a Hum who came t oAmerica i n about 1740 b u t they have spread out q u i t e widely.Myf a t h

Bancroft Library, University of California, Berkeley, 19 84. To cite an individual interview: Jaquelin Hume, "Basic Economics and the Body Politic: Views of a Northern California Reagan Loyalist," an oral history conducted 1982 by Gabrielle Morris, in Republican Philosophy and Party Activism, Regional Oral History Office, The